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The Relationship Lessons You Can Only Learn While Loving Someone | With Julie Baumgardner
Wednesday, June 24, 2026
What if some of the most important lessons about relationships can only be learned inside a relationship?In this powerful conversation, Julie Baumgardner—president of First Things First and a nationally recognized marriage and family advocate—joins Calvin Cope to explore why relationship knowledge alone is not enough to create lasting love.Together, they discuss the gap between understanding relationship principles and actually living them, especially for pastors, leaders, counselors, and couples who often know what to do but still struggle to apply it consistently.Drawing from decades of experience helping couples through retreats, education, and practical relationship training, Julie shares why real growth happens when people move beyond information and begin intentionally practicing the skills of connection, communication, patience, and understanding.
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