Innovative Church Leaders Podcast

with Dr. Eric Bryant

A New Creation Theology with Dr. John Anthony Dunne Monday, December 15, 2025

In this episode of the Post-Christian Podcast, ⁠Dr. Eric Bryant⁠ interviews ⁠Dr. John Anthony Dunne⁠, associate professor of New Testament at ⁠Bethel University⁠ and host of ⁠The Two Cities podcast⁠.In this conversation, Dr. John Dunne discusses the intersection of theology, culture, and church leadership, emphasizing the importance of a robust understanding of the New Testament and the concept of new creation as articulated by N.T. Wright. He highlights the need for church leaders to shift their focus from merely ensuring salvation to fostering a holistic understanding of life and ministry that reflects God's kingdom on earth. The conversation also addresses the challenges posed by Christian nationalism and the need for introspection within the evangelical community.Top 5 Takeaways from this interview:1. The Two Cities Podcast Origin Vision2. The Importance of Sound Theology for Church Leaders 3. NT Wright’s Vision of New Creation4. Living in Light of the Future 5. Shifting from a “Ticket to Heaven” Mindset 📲 Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: ⁠@EricBryant777 ⁠• Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357⁠• Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn⁠• Facebook: / ⁠catalyzingcommunity ⁠ • TikTok: / ⁠ericbryant777⁠ • LinkedIn: / ⁠eric-bryant-397003172 ⁠🔔 Subscribe Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let’s continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:39 – The heart behind The Two Cities podcast and its focus on theology, culture, and discipleship.02:51 – Dr. Dunn’s role at Bethel and his passion for helping students engage deeply with the New Testament.04:44 – NT Wright’s Surprised by Hope and its impact on understanding the new creation.08:56 – How knowing the end of God’s story shapes Christian living and ethics today.11:48 – The need for pastors to shift from a “where do you go when you die?” mindset to helping people find and bring life now.Head over to ⁠ericbryant.org⁠ for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#PostChristianPodcast #JohnDunne #NTWright #BethelUniversity #BethelSeminary #SurprisedByHope #NewCreation #TheTwoCities #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #discipleship #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinactionTo support this ministry financially, visit: https://www.lightsource.com/donate/1789/29

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